There's no bridge available when adding or removing a static FDB entry for (towards) the CPU port. This is intentional because the CPU port is always considered standalone, even if technically for the GSWIP driver it's part of every bridge.
Handling FDB add/remove on the CPU port fixes the following message during boot in OpenWrt: port 4 failed to add <LAN MAC address> vid 1 to fdb: -22 as well as the following message during system shutdown: port 4 failed to delete <LAN MAC address> vid 1 from fdb: -22
Use FID 0 (which is also the "default" FID) when adding/removing an FDB entry for the CPU port. Testing with a BT Home Hub 5A shows that this "default" FID works as expected: - traffic from/to LAN (ports in a bridge) is not seen on the WAN port (standalone port) - traffic from/to the WAN port (standalone port) is not seen on the LAN (ports in a bridge) ports - traffic from/to LAN is not seen on another LAN port with a different VLAN - traffic from/to one LAN port to another is still seen
Fixes: 58c59ef9e930c4 ("net: dsa: lantiq: Add Forwarding Database access") Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org Signed-off-by: Martin Blumenstingl martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com --- This patch is "minimalistic" on purpose: the goal is to have it backported to Linux 5.15. Linux 5.15 doesn't have dsa_fdb_present_in_other_db() or struct dsa_db yet. Once this patch has been accepted I will work on implementing FDB isolation for the Lantiq GSWIP driver.
Hauke, I hope I considered all test-cases which you find relevant. If not then please let me know.
drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c | 29 ++++++++++++++++++----------- 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c b/drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c index e531b93f3cb2..9dab28903af0 100644 --- a/drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c +++ b/drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c @@ -1365,19 +1365,26 @@ static int gswip_port_fdb(struct dsa_switch *ds, int port, int i; int err;
- if (!bridge) - return -EINVAL; - - for (i = max_ports; i < ARRAY_SIZE(priv->vlans); i++) { - if (priv->vlans[i].bridge == bridge) { - fid = priv->vlans[i].fid; - break; + if (bridge) { + for (i = max_ports; i < ARRAY_SIZE(priv->vlans); i++) { + if (priv->vlans[i].bridge == bridge) { + fid = priv->vlans[i].fid; + break; + } } - }
- if (fid == -1) { - dev_err(priv->dev, "Port not part of a bridge\n"); - return -EINVAL; + if (fid == -1) { + dev_err(priv->dev, "Port not part of a bridge\n"); + return -EINVAL; + } + } else if (dsa_is_cpu_port(ds, port)) { + /* Use FID 0 which is the "default" and used as fallback. This + * is not used by any standalone port or a bridge, so we can + * safely use it for the CPU port. + */ + fid = 0; + } else { + return -EOPNOTSUPP; }
mac_bridge.table = GSWIP_TABLE_MAC_BRIDGE;
Hi Martin,
On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 11:27:03PM +0200, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
There's no bridge available when adding or removing a static FDB entry for (towards) the CPU port. This is intentional because the CPU port is always considered standalone, even if technically for the GSWIP driver it's part of every bridge.
Handling FDB add/remove on the CPU port fixes the following message during boot in OpenWrt: port 4 failed to add <LAN MAC address> vid 1 to fdb: -22 as well as the following message during system shutdown: port 4 failed to delete <LAN MAC address> vid 1 from fdb: -22
Use FID 0 (which is also the "default" FID) when adding/removing an FDB entry for the CPU port.
What does "default" FID even mean, and why is the default FID relevant?
Testing with a BT Home Hub 5A shows that this "default" FID works as expected:
- traffic from/to LAN (ports in a bridge) is not seen on the WAN port (standalone port)
Why is this fact relevant to the change in any way? By saying that the FID of FDB entries installed towards the CPU doesn't affect the forwarding isolation between a bridged and a standalone port, you're effectively only saying that you're silencing a warning and you're not doing any harm. But you aren't explaining how the commit is doing any good, either (hint: it isn't).
- traffic from/to the WAN port (standalone port) is not seen on the LAN (ports in a bridge) ports
Same
- traffic from/to LAN is not seen on another LAN port with a different VLAN
Same
- traffic from/to one LAN port to another is still seen
Same
Fixes: 58c59ef9e930c4 ("net: dsa: lantiq: Add Forwarding Database access")
I guess you don't understand the problem. That commit can't be wrong, since it dates from v5.2, but DSA only started calling port_fdb_add() on a CPU port at all since commit d5f19486cee7 ("net: dsa: listen for SWITCHDEV_{FDB,DEL}_ADD_TO_DEVICE on foreign bridge neighbors") (v5.12) - and technically, that was opt-in, and the technique only started to become more widespread with commits 81a619f78759 ("net: dsa: include fdb entries pointing to bridge in the host fdb list"), 10fae4ac89ce ("net: dsa: include bridge addresses which are local in the host fdb list") and 3068d466a67e ("net: dsa: sync static FDB entries on foreign interfaces to hardware") (all appeared in v5.14). Also, the most recent application of the "port_fdb_add() on CPU ports" technique was introduced in commit 5e8a1e03aa4d ("net: dsa: install secondary unicast and multicast addresses as host FDB/MDB") (v5.18). But that is also more or less opt-in, since the driver needs to declare support for FDB isolation to make use of it.
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
We don't CC stable for patches that go through the "net" tree, the networking maintainers send weekly pull requests and the patches get automatically backported from there to the relevant and still-not-EOL stable branches, based on the Fixes: tag. That's why it's important that you fill that in correctly.
Signed-off-by: Martin Blumenstingl martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com
This patch is "minimalistic" on purpose: the goal is to have it backported to Linux 5.15. Linux 5.15 doesn't have dsa_fdb_present_in_other_db() or struct dsa_db yet. Once this patch has been accepted I will work on implementing FDB isolation for the Lantiq GSWIP driver.
Don't you want to go the other way around, first understand what is the real problem, its impact and the correct solution, then figure out what and how can be backported, and _where_?
I'm willing to help.
First it should be understood why DSA bothers to install FDB entries on the CPU port in the first place. It does so because there is a largeish class of switches where the MAC source addresses of traffic originating from Linux are not learned by the hardware. As such, packets being targeted _towards_ Linux interfaces will not find an entry in the FDB, and will be flooded. This can be seen if you have a system with swp0 and swp1 both under br0, and the station attached to swp0 pings br0. The ICMP requests will also be visible by the station attached to swp1.
It's hard to say whether this is the case or not for gswip, but this has been going on for years and years. Not really a functional (connectivity) problem, but nonetheless undesirable.
Recently (5.12-5.14), DSA started to address the problem by accepting the fact that MAC SA learning won't necessarily take place for packets xmitted by Linux, and just populating the FDB by itself on the CPU port.
At first, FDB isolation and the concept of FIDs was not very well understood, so DSA would simply pass on the bridge local FDB entries to port_fdb_add() with little concern as to which bridge actually offloaded those addresses. The particular driver implementation of mv88e6xxx may have shaped that decision in large part, because (a) if the FDB entry had a non-zero VID, that VID could be uniquely traced back to a FID, since that driver does not allow the same VID to be added to more than 1 VLAN-aware bridge (b) if the FDB entry had a VID of 0 (aka the entry is supposed to match only on MAC DA, for when the port is VLAN-unaware), the driver did not have FDB isolation (different FIDs) between one VLAN-unaware bridge and another VLAN-unaware bridge. Just one FID for standalone and VLAN-unaware bridge ports, and one FID per bridge VLAN.
Yet, the above was incorrect because it ironically did not consider drivers such as the gswip which have FDB isolation implemented, but not exposed to the DSA core, because the DSA core doesn't understand FDB isolation.
From my reading of the gswip driver, it allocates a "single port bridge" for each standalone port (effectively a VLAN which contains only port X and the CPU port, with VID=0 and FID=X+1). It also allocates one FID for each VLAN-unaware bridge, and one FID for each bridge VLAN. In other words, what more could you want.
My understanding of the "if (!bridge) return -EINVAL" code that you're deleting is this: the gswip driver needs to map the FDB entry to a FID (simply put, it's asking: "On which packets should the FDB entry match? Having which VLAN, and coming from which ports?"), yet the DSA core simply isn't providing enough information.
You're deleting that, and saying: FID 0.
FID 0, what?
I'm not at all clear on how (if at all) is FID 0 used by this driver. The "single port bridges" use a FID in range 1 to max_ports (port + 1), whereas gswip_vlan_active_create() allocates a fid in range max_ports to ARRAY_SIZE(priv->vlans). Neither of those is 0.
So while you may program FDB entries in FID 0, they will probably not match any packet. So packets would still be flooded as before. So what you're doing (a) is useless (b) consumes FDB space for nothing
So I consider that introducing host FDB entries without some gating condition was a mistake. We thought we could wing it and mass-migrate a bunch of drivers to include new functionality, and now we can't probably fix that up, since some would probably perceive it as being a regression.
Yet, in a strange way, it appears that it isn't the development of new core features that draws people's attention, but the harmless kernel log error messages. So in a way, I don't feel so bad that now I have your attention?
In any case, I recommend you to first set up a test bench where you actually see a difference between packets being flooded to the CPU vs matching an FDB entry targeting it. Then read up a bit what the provided dsa_db argument wants from port_fdb_add(). This conversation with Alvin should explain a few things. https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/cover/20220302191417.1288145-...
Then have a patch (set) lifting the "return -EINVAL" from gswip *properly*. And only then do we get to ask the questions "how bad are things for linux-5.18.y? how bad are they for linux-5.15.y? what do we need to do?".
Hauke, I hope I considered all test-cases which you find relevant. If not then please let me know.
drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c | 29 ++++++++++++++++++----------- 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c b/drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c index e531b93f3cb2..9dab28903af0 100644 --- a/drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c +++ b/drivers/net/dsa/lantiq_gswip.c @@ -1365,19 +1365,26 @@ static int gswip_port_fdb(struct dsa_switch *ds, int port, int i; int err;
- if (!bridge)
return -EINVAL;- for (i = max_ports; i < ARRAY_SIZE(priv->vlans); i++) {
if (priv->vlans[i].bridge == bridge) {fid = priv->vlans[i].fid;break;
- if (bridge) {
for (i = max_ports; i < ARRAY_SIZE(priv->vlans); i++) {if (priv->vlans[i].bridge == bridge) {fid = priv->vlans[i].fid;break;}
- }
- if (fid == -1) {
dev_err(priv->dev, "Port not part of a bridge\n");return -EINVAL;
if (fid == -1) {dev_err(priv->dev, "Port not part of a bridge\n");return -EINVAL;}- } else if (dsa_is_cpu_port(ds, port)) {
/* Use FID 0 which is the "default" and used as fallback. This* is not used by any standalone port or a bridge, so we can* safely use it for the CPU port.*/fid = 0;- } else {
return -EOPNOTSUPP;mac_bridge.table = GSWIP_TABLE_MAC_BRIDGE; -- 2.37.0
Hi Vladimir,
On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Vladimir Oltean olteanv@gmail.com wrote: [...]
Use FID 0 (which is also the "default" FID) when adding/removing an FDB entry for the CPU port.
What does "default" FID even mean, and why is the default FID relevant?
The GSW140 datasheet [0] (which is for a newer IP than the one we are targeting currently with the GSWIP driver - but I am not aware of any older datasheets) page 78 mentions: "By default the FID is zero and all entries belong to shared VLAN learning." Further down you mention that I probably don't understand the problem, which is probably true - so I'll cut things short here.
[...]
Fixes: 58c59ef9e930c4 ("net: dsa: lantiq: Add Forwarding Database access")
I guess you don't understand the problem. That commit can't be wrong, since it dates from v5.2, but DSA only started calling port_fdb_add() on a CPU port at all since commit d5f19486cee7 ("net: dsa: listen for SWITCHDEV_{FDB,DEL}_ADD_TO_DEVICE on foreign bridge neighbors") (v5.12)
- and technically, that was opt-in, and the technique only started to become more widespread with commits
81a619f78759 ("net: dsa: include fdb entries pointing to bridge in the host fdb list"), 10fae4ac89ce ("net: dsa: include bridge addresses which are local in the host fdb list") and 3068d466a67e ("net: dsa: sync static FDB entries on foreign interfaces to hardware") (all appeared in v5.14).
OK, this makes sense as we're not seeing these warnings in 5.10 Initially I thought that "just" the printk level was changed from DEBUG to something higher - but it seems that this observation is incorrect.
Also, the most recent application of the "port_fdb_add() on CPU ports" technique was introduced in commit 5e8a1e03aa4d ("net: dsa: install secondary unicast and multicast addresses as host FDB/MDB") (v5.18). But that is also more or less opt-in, since the driver needs to declare support for FDB isolation to make use of it.
I did find the FDB isolation changes in 5.18 but I am not sure yet how to integrate it into the GSWIP driver.
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
We don't CC stable for patches that go through the "net" tree, the networking maintainers send weekly pull requests and the patches get automatically backported from there to the relevant and still-not-EOL stable branches, based on the Fixes: tag. That's why it's important that you fill that in correctly.
sorry, I'll clean it up in v2
Signed-off-by: Martin Blumenstingl martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com
This patch is "minimalistic" on purpose: the goal is to have it backported to Linux 5.15. Linux 5.15 doesn't have dsa_fdb_present_in_other_db() or struct dsa_db yet. Once this patch has been accepted I will work on implementing FDB isolation for the Lantiq GSWIP driver.
Don't you want to go the other way around, first understand what is the real problem, its impact and the correct solution, then figure out what and how can be backported, and _where_?
I'm willing to help.
I thought that I understood the problem but this is clearly not the case. Thanks for offering your help!
First it should be understood why DSA bothers to install FDB entries on the CPU port in the first place. It does so because there is a largeish class of switches where the MAC source addresses of traffic originating from Linux are not learned by the hardware. As such, packets being targeted _towards_ Linux interfaces will not find an entry in the FDB, and will be flooded. This can be seen if you have a system with swp0 and swp1 both under br0, and the station attached to swp0 pings br0. The ICMP requests will also be visible by the station attached to swp1.
It's hard to say whether this is the case or not for gswip, but this has been going on for years and years. Not really a functional (connectivity) problem, but nonetheless undesirable.
I think for GSWIP it's not flooding packets to all ports. For testing I had one device connected to LAN1 (let's call this swp0, in OpenWrt we actually name the port "lan1") and another one connected to LAN4 (I'll again go with your example and call this swp1). A ping from the device on swp0 to the IPv4 of br0 (called br-lan in OpenWrt) was not visible in wireshark on the other device on swp1. This is with and without this patch.
If needed I can re-test this with Linux 5.10 to make sure that none of the DSA changes had any impact on this behavior.
[...]
Yet, in a strange way, it appears that it isn't the development of new core features that draws people's attention, but the harmless kernel log error messages. So in a way, I don't feel so bad that now I have your attention?
To give you some insight how I found this warning: I updated the Lantiq target in OpenWrt to Linux 5.15 - until then I didn't think we had to make any GSWIP changes because "everything worked fine". The first feedback I got for this was basically "does the Ethernet switch still work with the new warnings?".
Also there's no need to feel bad for this message. I'm having trouble understanding how just one switch IP (GSWIP) works. Maintaining a subsystem which fits many switch IPs must be a different beast.
In any case, I recommend you to first set up a test bench where you actually see a difference between packets being flooded to the CPU vs matching an FDB entry targeting it. Then read up a bit what the provided dsa_db argument wants from port_fdb_add(). This conversation with Alvin should explain a few things. https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/cover/20220302191417.1288145-...
I previously asked Hauke whether the RX tag (net/dsa/tag_gswip.c) has some bit to indicate whether traffic is flooded - but to his knowledge the switch doesn't provide this information. So I am not sure what I can do in this case - do you have any pointers for me?
Also apologies if all of this is very obvious. So far I have only been working on the xMII part of Ethernet drivers, meaning: I am totally new to the FDB part.
Then have a patch (set) lifting the "return -EINVAL" from gswip *properly*. And only then do we get to ask the questions "how bad are things for linux-5.18.y? how bad are they for linux-5.15.y? what do we need to do?".
agreed
Thanks again for your time and all these valuable hints Vladimir! Martin
[0] https://assets.maxlinear.com/web/documents/617930_gsw140_ds_rev1.11.pdf
On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 07:43:11PM +0200, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
Hi Vladimir,
On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Vladimir Oltean olteanv@gmail.com wrote: [...]
Use FID 0 (which is also the "default" FID) when adding/removing an FDB entry for the CPU port.
What does "default" FID even mean, and why is the default FID relevant?
The GSW140 datasheet [0] (which is for a newer IP than the one we are targeting currently with the GSWIP driver - but I am not aware of any older datasheets)
Thanks for the document! Really useful.
page 78 mentions: "By default the FID is zero and all entries belong to shared VLAN learning."
Not talking about the hardware defaults when it's obvious the driver changes those, in an attempt to comply to Linux networking expectations...
In any case, I recommend you to first set up a test bench where you actually see a difference between packets being flooded to the CPU vs matching an FDB entry targeting it. Then read up a bit what the provided dsa_db argument wants from port_fdb_add(). This conversation with Alvin should explain a few things. https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/cover/20220302191417.1288145-...
I previously asked Hauke whether the RX tag (net/dsa/tag_gswip.c) has some bit to indicate whether traffic is flooded - but to his knowledge the switch doesn't provide this information.
Yeah, you generally won't find quite that level of detail even in more advanced switches. Not that you need it...
So I am not sure what I can do in this case - do you have any pointers for me?
Yes, I do.
gswip_setup has:
/* Default unknown Broadcast/Multicast/Unicast port maps */ gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP1); gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP2); gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP3); <- replace BIT(cpu_port) with 0
If you can no longer ping, it means that flooding was how packets reached the system.
It appears that what goes on is interesting. The switch is configured to flood traffic that's unknown to the FDB only to the CPU (notably not to other bridged ports). In software, the packet reaches tag_gswip.c, where unlike the majority of other DSA tagging protocols, we do not call dsa_default_offload_fwd_mark(skb). Then, the packet reaches the software bridge, and the switch has informed the bridge (via skb->offload_fwd_mark == 0) that the packet hasn't been already flooded in hardware, so the software bridge needs to do it (only if necessary, of course).
The software bridge floods the packet according to its own FDB. In your case, the software bridge recognizes the MAC DA of the packet as being equal to the MAC address of br0 itself, and so, it doesn't flood it, just terminates it locally. This is true whether or not the switch learned that address in its FDB on the CPU port.
Also apologies if all of this is very obvious. So far I have only been working on the xMII part of Ethernet drivers, meaning: I am totally new to the FDB part.
Then have a patch (set) lifting the "return -EINVAL" from gswip *properly*. And only then do we get to ask the questions "how bad are things for linux-5.18.y? how bad are they for linux-5.15.y? what do we need to do?".
agreed
Thanks again for your time and all these valuable hints Vladimir! Martin
[0] https://assets.maxlinear.com/web/documents/617930_gsw140_ds_rev1.11.pdf
So if I'm right, the state of facts is quite "not broken" (quite the other way around, I'm really impressed), although there are still improvements to be made. Flooding could be offloaded to hardware, then flooding to CPU could be turned off and controlled via port promiscuity. This would save quite a few CPU cycles.
Hi Vladimir,
On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 8:56 PM Vladimir Oltean olteanv@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 07:43:11PM +0200, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
Hi Vladimir,
On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Vladimir Oltean olteanv@gmail.com wrote: [...]
Use FID 0 (which is also the "default" FID) when adding/removing an FDB entry for the CPU port.
What does "default" FID even mean, and why is the default FID relevant?
The GSW140 datasheet [0] (which is for a newer IP than the one we are targeting currently with the GSWIP driver - but I am not aware of any older datasheets)
Thanks for the document! Really useful.
Great that this helps. Whenever you hear me contradicting statements from that datasheet then please let me know. There have been subtle changes between the different versions of the IP, so I may have to double check with the vendor driver to see if things still apply to older versions.
page 78 mentions: "By default the FID is zero and all entries belong to shared VLAN learning."
Not talking about the hardware defaults when it's obvious the driver changes those, in an attempt to comply to Linux networking expectations...
In any case, I recommend you to first set up a test bench where you actually see a difference between packets being flooded to the CPU vs matching an FDB entry targeting it. Then read up a bit what the provided dsa_db argument wants from port_fdb_add(). This conversation with Alvin should explain a few things. https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/cover/20220302191417.1288145-...
I previously asked Hauke whether the RX tag (net/dsa/tag_gswip.c) has some bit to indicate whether traffic is flooded - but to his knowledge the switch doesn't provide this information.
Yeah, you generally won't find quite that level of detail even in more advanced switches. Not that you need it...
So I am not sure what I can do in this case - do you have any pointers for me?
Yes, I do.
gswip_setup has:
/* Default unknown Broadcast/Multicast/Unicast port maps */ gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP1); gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP2); gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP3); <- replace BIT(cpu_port) with 0If you can no longer ping, it means that flooding was how packets reached the system.
I tried this but I can still ping OpenWrt's br-lan IP.
I zero'ed the GSWIP_PCE_PMAP2 register (which according to the documentation is used for L2 multicast/broadcast flooding) as well, which changes the behavior: - once the br-lan (IP address: 192.168.1.14) interface is brought up it cannot be ping'ed from a device connected to one of the switch ports ("Destination Host Unreachable") - I can ping a device connected to the switch from within OpenWrt (meaning: ping from the CPU port to a device with IP 192.168.1.100 on one of the switch port works) - once I start the ping from within OpenWrt I immediately get replies from OpenWrt to the other device
ping log: [similar messages omitted, only the icmp_seq is different] From 192.168.1.100 icmp_seq=87 Destination Host Unreachable [this is when I start "ping 192.168.1.100" from within OpenWrt) 64 bytes from 192.168.1.14: icmp_seq=88 ttl=64 time=3016 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.14: icmp_seq=89 ttl=64 time=2002 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.14: icmp_seq=90 ttl=64 time=989 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.14: icmp_seq=91 ttl=64 time=0.379 ms
I made sure that the changes from my patch are not applied: # dmesg | grep " to fdb: -22" | wc -l 9
Also in case it's relevant: I added some printk's to gswip_port_fdb_dump() (because I don't know how to differentiate "hardware FDB" from "software FDB" entries in "bridge fdb show brport lan1"): The switch seems to learn the CPU port's MAC address automatically - even before I issue "ping 192.168.1.100" (most likely due to something in OpenWrt accessing the network). The "static" flag is not set though (which is expected I think).
As a side-note: I think the comment is partially incorrect. At least for the GSWIP IP revision which the driver is targeting, GSWIP_PCE_PMAP1 is for the "monitoring" port. My understanding is that this "monitoring port" is used with port mirroring (which the hardware supports but we don't implement in the driver yet).
It appears that what goes on is interesting. The switch is configured to flood traffic that's unknown to the FDB only to the CPU (notably not to other bridged ports). In software, the packet reaches tag_gswip.c, where unlike the majority of other DSA tagging protocols, we do not call dsa_default_offload_fwd_mark(skb). Then, the packet reaches the software bridge, and the switch has informed the bridge (via skb->offload_fwd_mark == 0) that the packet hasn't been already flooded in hardware, so the software bridge needs to do it (only if necessary, of course).
The software bridge floods the packet according to its own FDB. In your case, the software bridge recognizes the MAC DA of the packet as being equal to the MAC address of br0 itself, and so, it doesn't flood it, just terminates it locally. This is true whether or not the switch learned that address in its FDB on the CPU port.
Also apologies if all of this is very obvious. So far I have only been working on the xMII part of Ethernet drivers, meaning: I am totally new to the FDB part.
Then have a patch (set) lifting the "return -EINVAL" from gswip *properly*. And only then do we get to ask the questions "how bad are things for linux-5.18.y? how bad are they for linux-5.15.y? what do we need to do?".
agreed
Thanks again for your time and all these valuable hints Vladimir! Martin
[0] https://assets.maxlinear.com/web/documents/617930_gsw140_ds_rev1.11.pdf
So if I'm right, the state of facts is quite "not broken" (quite the other way around, I'm really impressed), although there are still improvements to be made. Flooding could be offloaded to hardware, then flooding to CPU could be turned off and controlled via port promiscuity. This would save quite a few CPU cycles.
Hearing that things are not horribly broken is great! Also saving a few CPU cycles would be awesome since this SoCs has a 500MHz MIPS 34Kc core with two VPEs (meaning: one core which supports SMT - or "HT" as known in the Intel world). So any CPU cycle that can be saved helps
Best regards, Martin
On Sun, Jul 03, 2022 at 12:53:45AM +0200, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
Hi Vladimir,
On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 8:56 PM Vladimir Oltean olteanv@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 07:43:11PM +0200, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
Hi Vladimir,
On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Vladimir Oltean olteanv@gmail.com wrote: [...]
Use FID 0 (which is also the "default" FID) when adding/removing an FDB entry for the CPU port.
What does "default" FID even mean, and why is the default FID relevant?
The GSW140 datasheet [0] (which is for a newer IP than the one we are targeting currently with the GSWIP driver - but I am not aware of any older datasheets)
Thanks for the document! Really useful.
Great that this helps. Whenever you hear me contradicting statements from that datasheet then please let me know. There have been subtle changes between the different versions of the IP, so I may have to double check with the vendor driver to see if things still apply to older versions.
page 78 mentions: "By default the FID is zero and all entries belong to shared VLAN learning."
Not talking about the hardware defaults when it's obvious the driver changes those, in an attempt to comply to Linux networking expectations...
In any case, I recommend you to first set up a test bench where you actually see a difference between packets being flooded to the CPU vs matching an FDB entry targeting it. Then read up a bit what the provided dsa_db argument wants from port_fdb_add(). This conversation with Alvin should explain a few things. https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/cover/20220302191417.1288145-...
I previously asked Hauke whether the RX tag (net/dsa/tag_gswip.c) has some bit to indicate whether traffic is flooded - but to his knowledge the switch doesn't provide this information.
Yeah, you generally won't find quite that level of detail even in more advanced switches. Not that you need it...
So I am not sure what I can do in this case - do you have any pointers for me?
Yes, I do.
gswip_setup has:
/* Default unknown Broadcast/Multicast/Unicast port maps */ gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP1); gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP2); gswip_switch_w(priv, BIT(cpu_port), GSWIP_PCE_PMAP3); <- replace BIT(cpu_port) with 0If you can no longer ping, it means that flooding was how packets reached the system.
I tried this but I can still ping OpenWrt's br-lan IP.
Yes, so I looked at the GSW140 documentation again and found:
Table 38 Special Tag Ingress Format Bit 4 Force no learning (1 B = address is not learned, 0 B = ignore)
This header format is quite different compared to what is supported by gswip_tag_xmit() - 8 bytes vs 4 - but if they're at all similar, the GSWIP may have a similar "learn disable" bit per packet, which the tag proto driver isn't setting => address learning takes place.
Please note that there is a reason why a "learn disable" bit exists. To work properly from all angles, only traffic injected into the switch from br-lan should be learned by the hardware. Traffic injected from standalone ports shouldn't.
I zero'ed the GSWIP_PCE_PMAP2 register (which according to the documentation is used for L2 multicast/broadcast flooding) as well, which changes the behavior:
- once the br-lan (IP address: 192.168.1.14) interface is brought up
it cannot be ping'ed from a device connected to one of the switch ports ("Destination Host Unreachable")
- I can ping a device connected to the switch from within OpenWrt
(meaning: ping from the CPU port to a device with IP 192.168.1.100 on one of the switch port works)
- once I start the ping from within OpenWrt I immediately get replies
from OpenWrt to the other device
ping log: [similar messages omitted, only the icmp_seq is different] From 192.168.1.100 icmp_seq=87 Destination Host Unreachable [this is when I start "ping 192.168.1.100" from within OpenWrt) 64 bytes from 192.168.1.14: icmp_seq=88 ttl=64 time=3016 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.14: icmp_seq=89 ttl=64 time=2002 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.14: icmp_seq=90 ttl=64 time=989 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.14: icmp_seq=91 ttl=64 time=0.379 ms
I made sure that the changes from my patch are not applied: # dmesg | grep " to fdb: -22" | wc -l 9
Also in case it's relevant: I added some printk's to gswip_port_fdb_dump() (because I don't know how to differentiate "hardware FDB" from "software FDB" entries in "bridge fdb show brport lan1"): The switch seems to learn the CPU port's MAC address automatically - even before I issue "ping 192.168.1.100" (most likely due to something in OpenWrt accessing the network). The "static" flag is not set though (which is expected I think).
Ok, so this wasn't too complicated it seems. Thanks for doing the tests.
There isn't a better way than to printk the FDB entries on the CPU port, given that there isn't a netdev for that port through which we could report .ndo_fdb_dump.
What exists is the concept of "devlink regions" and "devlink port regions". These are named binary bits exposed by certain DSA drivers that are dumped by user space over netlink, and interpreted by a vendor specific tool.
Andrew Lunn wrote mv88e6xxx_dump for... mv88e6xxx https://github.com/lunn/mv88e6xxx_dump
and that can be used to dump information for CPU ports. It includes entire Address Translation Unit (ATU) entries, so the format is a quite a bit more detailed than bridge FDB entries since it is hardware specific.
There are various forks of that tool for other pieces of hardware, like sja1105_dump: https://github.com/vladimiroltean/mv88e6xxx_dump
To my knowledge there hasn't been any successful attempt in unifying all forks into a larger dsa_dump, although I've wanted to do that.
Mentioning this just in case you have some spare time to work on a small little debugging tool. If you're fine with printk that's cool too.
As a side-note: I think the comment is partially incorrect. At least for the GSWIP IP revision which the driver is targeting, GSWIP_PCE_PMAP1 is for the "monitoring" port. My understanding is that this "monitoring port" is used with port mirroring (which the hardware supports but we don't implement in the driver yet).
It appears that what goes on is interesting. The switch is configured to flood traffic that's unknown to the FDB only to the CPU (notably not to other bridged ports). In software, the packet reaches tag_gswip.c, where unlike the majority of other DSA tagging protocols, we do not call dsa_default_offload_fwd_mark(skb). Then, the packet reaches the software bridge, and the switch has informed the bridge (via skb->offload_fwd_mark == 0) that the packet hasn't been already flooded in hardware, so the software bridge needs to do it (only if necessary, of course).
The software bridge floods the packet according to its own FDB. In your case, the software bridge recognizes the MAC DA of the packet as being equal to the MAC address of br0 itself, and so, it doesn't flood it, just terminates it locally. This is true whether or not the switch learned that address in its FDB on the CPU port.
Also apologies if all of this is very obvious. So far I have only been working on the xMII part of Ethernet drivers, meaning: I am totally new to the FDB part.
Then have a patch (set) lifting the "return -EINVAL" from gswip *properly*. And only then do we get to ask the questions "how bad are things for linux-5.18.y? how bad are they for linux-5.15.y? what do we need to do?".
agreed
Thanks again for your time and all these valuable hints Vladimir! Martin
[0] https://assets.maxlinear.com/web/documents/617930_gsw140_ds_rev1.11.pdf
So if I'm right, the state of facts is quite "not broken" (quite the other way around, I'm really impressed), although there are still improvements to be made. Flooding could be offloaded to hardware, then flooding to CPU could be turned off and controlled via port promiscuity. This would save quite a few CPU cycles.
Hearing that things are not horribly broken is great! Also saving a few CPU cycles would be awesome since this SoCs has a 500MHz MIPS 34Kc core with two VPEs (meaning: one core which supports SMT - or "HT" as known in the Intel world). So any CPU cycle that can be saved helps
The first thing will be to get the driver to pass the existing selftests. If you look at tools/testing/selftests/drivers/net/dsa/local_termination.sh, that is what should ultimately pass, since it checks that the packets that should be received are received, and the ones that shouldn't aren't.
But to get there we'll need to make smaller steps, like disable address learning on standalone ports, isolate FDBs, maybe offload the bridge TX forwarding process (in order to populate the "Force no learning" bit in tag_gswip.c properly), and only then will the local_termination test also pass. There's also some more work to do in the bridge driver, but we're getting there slowly.
I'll give some more details about these things in the thread with the selftest for the configure_vlan_while_not_filtering feature, there are quite a few things to be said.
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