On 02.02.21 13:48, Mike Rapoport wrote:
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 10:35:05AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Mon 01-02-21 08:56:19, James Bottomley wrote:
I have also proposed potential ways out of this. Either the pool is not fixed sized and you make it a regular unevictable memory (if direct map fragmentation is not considered a major problem)
I think that the direct map fragmentation is not a major problem, and the data we have confirms it, so I'd be more than happy to entirely drop the pool, allocate memory page by page and remove each page from the direct map.
Still, we cannot prove negative and it could happen that there is a workload that would suffer a lot from the direct map fragmentation, so having a pool of large pages upfront is better than trying to fix it afterwards. As we get more confidence that the direct map fragmentation is not an issue as it is common to believe we may remove the pool altogether.
I think that using PMD_ORDER allocations for the pool with a fallback to order 0 will do the job, but unfortunately I doubt we'll reach a consensus about this because dogmatic beliefs are hard to shake...
A more restrictive possibility is to still use plain PMD_ORDER allocations to fill the pool, without relying on CMA. In this case there will be no global secretmem specific pool to exhaust, but then it's possible to drain high order free blocks in a system, so CMA has an advantage of limiting secretmem pools to certain amount of memory with somewhat higher probability for high order allocation to succeed.
I am not really concerned about fragmenting/breaking up the direct map as long as the feature has to be explicitly enabled (similar to fragmenting the vmemmap).
As already expressed, I dislike allowing user space to consume an unlimited number unmovable/unmigratable allocations. We already have that in some cases with huge pages (when the arch does not support migration) - but there we can at least manage the consumption using the whole max/reserved/free/... infrastructure. In addition, adding arch support for migration shouldn't be too complicated.
The idea of using CMA is quite good IMHO, because there we can locally limit the direct map fragmentation and don't have to bother about migration at all. We own the area, so we can place as many unmovable allocations on it as we can fit.
But it sounds like, we would also need some kind of reservation mechanism in either scenario (CMA vs. no CMA).
If we don't want to go full-circle on max/reserved/free/..., allowing for migration of secretmem pages would make sense. Then, these pages become "less special". Map source, copy, unmap destination. The security implementations are the ugly part. I wonder if we could temporarily map somewhere else, so avoiding to touch the direct map during migration.