On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:46 AM Thomas Hellström (Intel) thomas_os@shipmail.org wrote:
On 2/23/21 11:59 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
tldr; DMA buffers aren't normal memory, expecting that you can use them like that (like calling get_user_pages works, or that they're accounting like any other normal memory) cannot be guaranteed.
Since some userspace only runs on integrated devices, where all buffers are actually all resident system memory, there's a huge temptation to assume that a struct page is always present and useable like for any more pagecache backed mmap. This has the potential to result in a uapi nightmare.
To stop this gap require that DMA buffer mmaps are VM_PFNMAP, which blocks get_user_pages and all the other struct page based infrastructure for everyone. In spirit this is the uapi counterpart to the kernel-internal CONFIG_DMABUF_DEBUG.
Motivated by a recent patch which wanted to swich the system dma-buf heap to vm_insert_page instead of vm_insert_pfn.
v2:
Jason brought up that we also want to guarantee that all ptes have the pte_special flag set, to catch fast get_user_pages (on architectures that support this). Allowing VM_MIXEDMAP (like VM_SPECIAL does) would still allow vm_insert_page, but limiting to VM_PFNMAP will catch that.
From auditing the various functions to insert pfn pte entires (vm_insert_pfn_prot, remap_pfn_range and all it's callers like dma_mmap_wc) it looks like VM_PFNMAP is already required anyway, so this should be the correct flag to check for.
If we require VM_PFNMAP, for ordinary page mappings, we also need to disallow COW mappings, since it will not work on architectures that don't have CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_PTE_SPECIAL, (see the docs for vm_normal_page()).
Hm I figured everyone just uses MAP_SHARED for buffer objects since COW really makes absolutely no sense. How would we enforce this?
Also worth noting is the comment in ttm_bo_mmap_vma_setup() with possible performance implications with x86 + PAT + VM_PFNMAP + normal pages. That's a very old comment, though, and might not be valid anymore.
I think that's why ttm has a page cache for these, because it indeed sucks. The PAT changes on pages are rather expensive.
There is still an issue for iomem mappings, because the PAT validation does a linear walk of the resource tree (lol) for every vm_insert_pfn. But for i915 at least this is fixed by using the io_mapping infrastructure, which does the PAT reservation only once when you set up the mapping area at driver load.
Also TTM uses VM_PFNMAP right now for everything, so it can't be a problem that hurts much :-) -Daniel
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 09:45:51AM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
Hm I figured everyone just uses MAP_SHARED for buffer objects since COW really makes absolutely no sense. How would we enforce this?
In RDMA we test
drivers/infiniband/core/ib_core_uverbs.c: if (!(vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED))
During mmap to reject use of MAP_PRIVATE on BAR pages.
Jason
Am 24.02.21 um 19:46 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 09:45:51AM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
Hm I figured everyone just uses MAP_SHARED for buffer objects since COW really makes absolutely no sense. How would we enforce this?
In RDMA we test
drivers/infiniband/core/ib_core_uverbs.c: if (!(vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED))
During mmap to reject use of MAP_PRIVATE on BAR pages.
That's a really good idea. MAP_PRIVATE and any driver mappings doesn't really work at all.
Christian.
Jason
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:30:23AM +0100, Christian König wrote:
Am 24.02.21 um 19:46 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 09:45:51AM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
Hm I figured everyone just uses MAP_SHARED for buffer objects since COW really makes absolutely no sense. How would we enforce this?
In RDMA we test
drivers/infiniband/core/ib_core_uverbs.c: if (!(vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED))
During mmap to reject use of MAP_PRIVATE on BAR pages.
That's a really good idea. MAP_PRIVATE and any driver mappings doesn't really work at all.
Yeah I feel like this is the next patch we need to add on this little series of locking down dma-buf mmap semantics. Probably should also push these into drm gem mmap code (and maybe ttm can switch over to that, it's really the same).
One at a time. -Daniel
Christian.
Jason
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