Hi folks,
Following on from the founding of the cross-distro ARM mailing list, I'd like to propose an ARM summit at this year's Linux Plumbers conference [1]. I'm hoping for a slot on Thursday evening, but this remains to be confirmed at this point.
We had some lively discussion about the state of ARM Linux distros at the Linaro Connect [2] event in Cambridge last week. It rapidly became clear that some of the topics we discussed deserve a wider audience, so we're suggesting a meetup at Plumbers for that bigger discussion. The initial proposed agenda is:
* ARM hard-float + What is it and why does it matter? + How can distributions keep compatible (i.e. gcc triplet to describe the port)?
* Adding support for ARM as an architecture to the Linux Standard Base (LSB) + Does it matter? + What's needed?
* FHS - multi-arch coming soon, how do we proceed?
* 3D support on ARM platforms + Open GL vs. GLES - which is appropriate?
but I'm sure that other people will think of more issues they'd like to discuss. :-)
If you wish to attend, please reply to the cross-distro list and let us know to expect you. Make sure you're registered to attend Plumbers Conf, and get your travel and accommodation organised ASAP.
[1] http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2011/ [2] http://connect.linaro.org/
Cheers, -- Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org http://www.linaro.org/ Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.orgwrote:
The initial proposed agenda is:
- ARM hard-float
- What is it and why does it matter?
- How can distributions keep compatible (i.e. gcc triplet to describe the port)?
- Adding support for ARM as an architecture to the Linux Standard
Base (LSB)
- Does it matter?
- What's needed?
FHS - multi-arch coming soon, how do we proceed?
3D support on ARM platforms
- Open GL vs. GLES - which is appropriate?
but I'm sure that other people will think of more issues they'd like to discuss. :-)
from the point of LSB and FHS (as I'm part of both of those workgroups), I don't know if there will be anyone there representing those groups, but if that would be valuable it might be possible to prod LF into sending Jeff Licquia - just ask early enough! Otherwise... Steve, you know where to poke at us. My email address might hint that I might not have any time to work on it, but I'll always answer questions :)
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 07:15:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Hi folks,
Following on from the founding of the cross-distro ARM mailing list, I'd like to propose an ARM summit at this year's Linux Plumbers conference [1]. I'm hoping for a slot on Thursday evening, but this remains to be confirmed at this point.
We had some lively discussion about the state of ARM Linux distros at the Linaro Connect [2] event in Cambridge last week. It rapidly became clear that some of the topics we discussed deserve a wider audience, so we're suggesting a meetup at Plumbers for that bigger discussion. The initial proposed agenda is:
ARM hard-float
- What is it and why does it matter?
- How can distributions keep compatible (i.e. gcc triplet to describe the port)?
Adding support for ARM as an architecture to the Linux Standard Base (LSB)
- Does it matter?
- What's needed?
FHS - multi-arch coming soon, how do we proceed?
3D support on ARM platforms
- Open GL vs. GLES - which is appropriate?
but I'm sure that other people will think of more issues they'd like to discuss. :-)
If you wish to attend, please reply to the cross-distro list and let us know to expect you. Make sure you're registered to attend Plumbers Conf, and get your travel and accommodation organised ASAP.
[1] http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2011/ [2] http://connect.linaro.org/
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
Cheers,
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:11:34 +0100, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 07:15:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Hi folks,
Following on from the founding of the cross-distro ARM mailing list, I'd like to propose an ARM summit at this year's Linux Plumbers conference [1]. I'm hoping for a slot on Thursday evening, but this remains to be confirmed at this point.
We had some lively discussion about the state of ARM Linux distros at the Linaro Connect [2] event in Cambridge last week. It rapidly became clear that some of the topics we discussed deserve a wider audience, so we're suggesting a meetup at Plumbers for that bigger discussion. The initial proposed agenda is:
ARM hard-float
- What is it and why does it matter?
- How can distributions keep compatible (i.e. gcc triplet to describe the port)?
Adding support for ARM as an architecture to the Linux Standard Base (LSB)
- Does it matter?
- What's needed?
FHS - multi-arch coming soon, how do we proceed?
3D support on ARM platforms
- Open GL vs. GLES - which is appropriate?
but I'm sure that other people will think of more issues they'd like to discuss. :-)
If you wish to attend, please reply to the cross-distro list and let us know to expect you. Make sure you're registered to attend Plumbers Conf, and get your travel and accommodation organised ASAP.
[1] http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2011/ [2] http://connect.linaro.org/
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
Unfortunately there is no way I could make it, but on the subject of 3D support on ARM, Luke recently mentioned something that initially seemed outlandish but upon closer examination doesn't seem like a bad idea. As we all know, the state of openness of specifications of commonly used ARM 3D GPUs is at best dire. What has been proposed is a bit radical, but it doesn't actually seem that implausible. Specifically, combining Open Graphics Project (http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php) and the xilinx zynq-7000 or similar (dual core Cortex A9 + FPGA). The idea is to have an OGP GPU in firmware in FPGA. In terms of the power budget, it seems to work relatively sanely considering what it is, and it is as ideal as it gets as far as openness and flexibility goes.
I just thought it's worthy of a mention.
Gordan
Quoting Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net:
Unfortunately there is no way I could make it, but on the subject of 3D support on ARM, Luke recently mentioned something that initially seemed outlandish but upon closer examination doesn't seem like a bad idea. As we all know, the state of openness of specifications of commonly used ARM 3D GPUs is at best dire. What has been proposed is a bit radical, but it doesn't actually seem that implausible. Specifically, combining Open Graphics Project (http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php) and the xilinx zynq-7000 or similar (dual core Cortex A9 + FPGA). The idea is to have an OGP GPU in firmware in FPGA. In terms of the power budget, it seems to work relatively sanely considering what it is, and it is as ideal as it gets as far as openness and flexibility goes.
I just thought it's worthy of a mention.
It does seem outlandish, but it is kind of cool. Is it going to give enough 3d speed? The next gen tegra is supposed to have a 24 core GPU.
It is probably more sane then my idea of just having a test suite from digital video out -> digital video receiver/capture card to get known test results. Then you could set up a hinted genetic algorithm based on a comparison. It would only work with digital video signals though.
On 08/23/2011 07:01 PM, omalleys@msu.edu wrote:
Quoting Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net:
Unfortunately there is no way I could make it, but on the subject of 3D support on ARM, Luke recently mentioned something that initially seemed outlandish but upon closer examination doesn't seem like a bad idea. As we all know, the state of openness of specifications of commonly used ARM 3D GPUs is at best dire. What has been proposed is a bit radical, but it doesn't actually seem that implausible. Specifically, combining Open Graphics Project (http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php) and the xilinx zynq-7000 or similar (dual core Cortex A9 + FPGA). The idea is to have an OGP GPU in firmware in FPGA. In terms of the power budget, it seems to work relatively sanely considering what it is, and it is as ideal as it gets as far as openness and flexibility goes.
I just thought it's worthy of a mention.
It does seem outlandish, but it is kind of cool. Is it going to give enough 3d speed? The next gen tegra is supposed to have a 24 core GPU.
If you can quantify what "enough 3D speed" means, then perhaps that can be assessed. There really aren't many applications around at the moment to make this an issue. I'd be more interested in it's ability to decode 1080p.
Then again - it's FPGA! You can load a different "firmware" depending on whether you need 1080p decoding or 3D rendering, or some other kind of specialized DSP offload with only bare minimal VGA. :)
Personally, I think OGP would be worth it even if just for the fact that we would no longer have to beg (in vain) the vendors for decent drivers or published specs. The added flexibility on top is just a "free extra". :)
Gordan
[ok i'm going to do another cross-post in a bit which will give some background and also perhaps some other topics for discussion, but i wanted to cover this first. apologies for people for whom this is just noise]
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:01 PM, omalleys@msu.edu wrote:
the xilinx zynq-7000 or similar (dual core Cortex A9 + FPGA). The idea is to have an OGP GPU in firmware in FPGA. In terms of the power budget, it seems to work relatively sanely considering what it is, and it is as ideal as it gets as far as openness and flexibility goes.
I just thought it's worthy of a mention.
It does seem outlandish, but it is kind of cool. Is it going to give enough 3d speed? The next gen tegra is supposed to have a 24 core GPU.
if nvidia have a published announcement of their plans to release a fully free-software-compliant 3D driver to match the proprietary hardware, then that would be brilliant news [about their next gen GPU].
about the zynq idea: it actually doesn't matter if it's "enough". the very fact that free software developers - and people who want to be free software developers - around the world could even _remotely_ consider buying one of these for an affordable price instead of $750 for the present OGP card means that more people can at least begin to try to address the unbelievably wide and very discouraging gap between us and proprietary 3D hardware.
the NREs on producing a set of masks are _only_ $250,000 if you are a taiwanese company asking TSMC, but for everyone else they're at least $2 million. the development costs if you use off-the-shelf tools before you even _get_ to the point where you can ask a fab to produce those masks spiral out of control (Mentor Graphics charges something like $250,000 per month or maybe per week per user; NREs for peripheral hard macros can be $50k to $100k each etc. etc.), taking the total development costs in many cases to well above $USD 30 million.
and that's excluding all that "proprietary software" which of course is utterly useless without the corresponding hardware but, because of USA Accountancy Rules, where "IP" can be added to the books to increase the value of a company, there's a strong financial disincentive to consider just "givvin it aww away 4 fwee".
and here we are with a CPU which could well be around the $25 - $30 mark in large enough volumes, presented with the possibility to say "**** u all, you proprietary GPU companies and your greed, fear, patent warfare and lack of willingness to collaborate and cooperate".
ok maybe not those exact words but you know what i mean :)
l.
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:00:43 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
[ok i'm going to do another cross-post in a bit which will give some background and also perhaps some other topics for discussion, but i wanted to cover this first. apologies for people for whom this is just noise]
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:01 PM, omalleys@msu.edu wrote:
the xilinx zynq-7000 or similar (dual core Cortex A9 + FPGA). The idea is to have an OGP GPU in firmware in FPGA. In terms of the power budget, it seems to work relatively sanely considering what it is, and it is as ideal as it gets as far as openness and flexibility goes.
I just thought it's worthy of a mention.
It does seem outlandish, but it is kind of cool. Is it going to give enough 3d speed? The next gen tegra is supposed to have a 24 core GPU.
if nvidia have a published announcement of their plans to release a fully free-software-compliant 3D driver to match the proprietary hardware, then that would be brilliant news [about their next gen GPU].
about the zynq idea: it actually doesn't matter if it's "enough". the very fact that free software developers - and people who want to be free software developers - around the world could even _remotely_ consider buying one of these for an affordable price instead of $750 for the present OGP card means that more people can at least begin to try to address the unbelievably wide and very discouraging gap between us and proprietary 3D hardware.
the NREs on producing a set of masks are _only_ $250,000 if you are a taiwanese company asking TSMC, but for everyone else they're at least $2 million. the development costs if you use off-the-shelf tools before you even _get_ to the point where you can ask a fab to produce those masks spiral out of control (Mentor Graphics charges something like $250,000 per month or maybe per week per user; NREs for peripheral hard macros can be $50k to $100k each etc. etc.), taking the total development costs in many cases to well above $USD 30 million.
and that's excluding all that "proprietary software" which of course is utterly useless without the corresponding hardware but, because of USA Accountancy Rules, where "IP" can be added to the books to increase the value of a company, there's a strong financial disincentive to consider just "givvin it aww away 4 fwee".
and here we are with a CPU which could well be around the $25 - $30 mark in large enough volumes, presented with the possibility to say "**** u all, you proprietary GPU companies and your greed, fear, patent warfare and lack of willingness to collaborate and cooperate".
ok maybe not those exact words but you know what i mean :)
I quite like the wording, actually. :)
Gordan
On 08/23/2011 12:11 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
I just pinged my boss on this, and learned that I won't be able to go to Plumbers this time. Let me know if the meeting takes place; I'd love to call in, or participate in whatever we can set up for remote attendance.
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:29:11PM -0400, Jeff Licquia wrote:
On 08/23/2011 12:11 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
I just pinged my boss on this, and learned that I won't be able to go to Plumbers this time. Let me know if the meeting takes place; I'd love to call in, or participate in whatever we can set up for remote attendance.
OK. I'll keep you updated.
Cheers,
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 17:11 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
I'm obviously confirming, but I'll repeat that for the record. My interests here include helping to lead up Fedora's ARMv7 efforts, but also wider ARM platform standardization (boot, device enumeration, multi-arch, ABI, kernel consolidation, and many other things).
If there's at least representation from a few of the distros (as it seems is the case at this point) then I think it's worthwhile having the formal slots. Nothing is lost in so doing. In any case, many discussions will take place if we have the opportunity to do so.
Jon.
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On 08/28/11 22:02, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 17:11 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
I'm obviously confirming, but I'll repeat that for the record. My interests here include helping to lead up Fedora's ARMv7 efforts, but also wider ARM platform standardization (boot, device enumeration, multi-arch, ABI, kernel consolidation, and many other things).
If there's at least representation from a few of the distros (as it seems is the case at this point) then I think it's worthwhile having the formal slots. Nothing is lost in so doing. In any case, many discussions will take place if we have the opportunity to do so.
I've certain got an interest in hashing out ARM relative issues from a tools standpoint. So count me in.
jeff
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 05:11:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
I am completely unsure if my reply got through, looking back I got a message dropped response after 5 days, hmm.
I am sure a number of Ubuntu kernel people would be interested in these discussions if they are going on in the end.
-apw
I'll be there, representing Mozilla's Boot to Gecko effort.
Cheers, - Michael
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Andy Whitcroft apw@canonical.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 05:11:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
I am completely unsure if my reply got through, looking back I got a message dropped response after 5 days, hmm.
I am sure a number of Ubuntu kernel people would be interested in these discussions if they are going on in the end.
-apw
cross-distro mailing list cross-distro@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-distro
[ Last big cross-post; I'll just post to the cross-distro list in future! ]
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 05:11:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 07:15:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
[ARM summit at Plumbers, Thursday 8th September]
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
And that seemed to provoke enought interest from people all over, which is good. This event is definitely going on. Let's look forwards to some good discussion. :-)
Cheers,
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org wrote:
And that seemed to provoke enought interest from people all over, which is good. This event is definitely going on. Let's look forwards to some good discussion. :-)
yaay :)
can i ask: for those people who'd like to be involved who won't be able to physically be there, could some sort of online "thing" be organised? e.g. ooo i dunno... low-bandwidth audio/video streaming plus IRC, and someone willing to read out questions / comments? ok maybe IRC wouldn't be ideal, means many peoples' heads will be in their laptops rather than paying attention to what's going on in the room but hey it'd be better than a kick in the teeth.
... or... does this sort of thing generally happen all the time anyway (like it does at debconfs)?
l.
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 23:41 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org wrote:
And that seemed to provoke enought interest from people all over, which is good. This event is definitely going on. Let's look forwards to some good discussion. :-)
yaay :)
can i ask: for those people who'd like to be involved who won't be able to physically be there, could some sort of online "thing" be organised? e.g. ooo i dunno... low-bandwidth audio/video streaming plus IRC, and someone willing to read out questions / comments? ok maybe IRC wouldn't be ideal, means many peoples' heads will be in their laptops rather than paying attention to what's going on in the room but hey it'd be better than a kick in the teeth.
... or... does this sort of thing generally happen all the time anyway (like it does at debconfs)?
We'll try to arrange a dialin number. I'll talk to the organizers and see what we can do. I sent email about the events and expressed my desire to see where we stand with slots/etc (reconciling the several things into one bigger one, getting a further slot, etc). but I have yet to hear back. Steve, you and I can talk about this later.
Jon.
Hi!
@LKCL +1 for the "freedom" ARM conference/discussion!
low-bandwidth audio/video streaming
at least - record of the Video would be really helpful, as for me - i like the quality video-report -- more than poor one-side streaming. However (except "poor") -- both are better..
Most of - depends on format/size of the conference/talk
plus IRC
for sure - could be useful if the streaming would be organized, - for a feedback/comments on particular talks, watching the web-stream (one-sided or not).
@Jon Masters
We'll try to arrange a dialin number.
if it is a Californian(or wherever) phone number for the voice "teleconference".. with some IRC back-channel like "you guys are" often make.. oh.. Please, -- No! You could do better!
maybe leverage some tech like http://michael.stapelberg.de/Artikel/video_chat_with_pidgin or http://www.gnutelephony.org/index.php/GNU_Telephony or something else.. Instruction would be helpful, but, it is the conference for Linux "hackers", in the end..
PS: well, at least i'v tried :)
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Jon Masters jcm@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 23:41 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org wrote:
And that seemed to provoke enought interest from people all over, which is good. This event is definitely going on. Let's look forwards to some good discussion. :-)
yaay :)
can i ask: for those people who'd like to be involved who won't be able to physically be there, could some sort of online "thing" be organised? e.g. ooo i dunno... low-bandwidth audio/video streaming plus IRC, and someone willing to read out questions / comments? ok maybe IRC wouldn't be ideal, means many peoples' heads will be in their laptops rather than paying attention to what's going on in the room but hey it'd be better than a kick in the teeth.
... or... does this sort of thing generally happen all the time anyway (like it does at debconfs)?
We'll try to arrange a dialin number.
... which costs money, and puts that into the pockets of telcos in the U.S., when there is perfectly good free software like asterisk oh wait yeah i see what you mean ho hum :)
at least skype is monetarily-zero-cost - but don't tell rms i thought skype was a good idea to use for conferencing, pleaase :)
l.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Jon Masters jcm@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 23:41 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org wrote:
And that seemed to provoke enought interest from people all over, which is good. This event is definitely going on. Let's look forwards to some good discussion. :-)
yaay :)
can i ask: for those people who'd like to be involved who won't be able to physically be there, could some sort of online "thing" be organised? e.g. ooo i dunno... low-bandwidth audio/video streaming plus IRC, and someone willing to read out questions / comments? ok maybe IRC wouldn't be ideal, means many peoples' heads will be in their laptops rather than paying attention to what's going on in the room but hey it'd be better than a kick in the teeth.
... or... does this sort of thing generally happen all the time anyway (like it does at debconfs)?
We'll try to arrange a dialin number.
... which costs money, and puts that into the pockets of telcos in the U.S., when there is perfectly good free software like asterisk oh wait yeah i see what you mean ho hum :)
at least skype is monetarily-zero-cost - but don't tell rms i thought skype was a good idea to use for conferencing, pleaase :)
l.
cross-distro mailing list cross-distro@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-distro
http://www.freeconference.com/ is a fairly good option for calling in. We use it all the time for meetings.
cheers, Sameer
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:40 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
http://www.freeconference.com/ is a fairly good option for calling in. We use it all the time for meetings.
I've had a special conference bridge setup on the Red Hat conferencing system. I will forward details before we meet.
Jon.
I will love to attend this summit.
Please kindly furnish details about the venue and time. I saw date but not venue e.g. City and country. I am based in London.
Thanks for your time.
God blesses!!!
Best regards, Sanyaade
On 31 August 2011 23:11, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org wrote:
[ Last big cross-post; I'll just post to the cross-distro list in future! ]
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 05:11:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 07:15:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
[ARM summit at Plumbers, Thursday 8th September]
UPDATE: we've not had many people confirm interest in this event yet, which is a shame. If you would like to join us for this session, please reply and let me know. If we don't get enough interest by the end of Sunday (28th August), then we'll have to cancel the meeting.
And that seemed to provoke enought interest from people all over, which is good. This event is definitely going on. Let's look forwards to some good discussion. :-)
Cheers,
Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org http://www.linaro.org/ Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs
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On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 14:15:34 Steve McIntyre wrote:
Following on from the founding of the cross-distro ARM mailing list, I'd like to propose an ARM summit at this year's Linux Plumbers conference [1]. I'm hoping for a slot on Thursday evening, but this remains to be confirmed at this point.
We had some lively discussion about the state of ARM Linux distros at the Linaro Connect [2] event in Cambridge last week. It rapidly became clear that some of the topics we discussed deserve a wider audience, so we're suggesting a meetup at Plumbers for that bigger discussion. The initial proposed agenda is:
i guess i'll be there to help represent the Gentoo/Chrome OS side :)
there any other Gentoo peeps in the SF area ? -mike
On 2011-08-23 Tue 14:36, Mike Frysinger wrote:
Following on from the founding of the cross-distro ARM mailing list, I'd like to propose an ARM summit at this year's Linux Plumbers conference [1]. I'm hoping for a slot on Thursday evening, but this remains to be confirmed at this point. We had some lively discussion about the state of ARM Linux distros at the Linaro Connect [2] event in Cambridge last week. It rapidly became clear that some of the topics we discussed deserve a wider audience, so we're suggesting a meetup at Plumbers for that bigger discussion. The initial proposed agenda is:
i guess i'll be there to help represent the Gentoo/Chrome OS side :)
there any other Gentoo peeps in the SF area ?
I'll be there as well to represent Gentoo and give a talk, but I'm not from the SF area.
Tim
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