Folks,
A couple of things from me. Split into two sections:
Dialin ------
IRC: #linaro-armhf (irc.freenode.net) Time: 8pm Pacific tonight.
I have had a special line setup on the Red Hat Conference system. To dial into this, use one of the following country-specific codes with the access code of 6177591337 (which is my US cellphone number btw).
Global Network Access Toll-Free Dial-in Numbers: Australia : 1800337169 Brazil : 08008921002 Finland : 0800117116 France : 0805632867 Germany : 08006647541 United Kingdom: 08006948057 United States: 18004518679
Agenda ------
(Steve already sent out a comprehensive agenda)
To Steve's other point around topics for tonight, I agree that the only things (being brutally honest also here) I really care about is hardfloat and standardization. I think we should collectively consider at the start of the meeting whether it makes sense (IMO it does) to confine our discussion to topics we can make progress on in the limited time that we have. I also suggest seeing if we can find another time to followup tomorrow that we can all agree on. For those of us here in person, I assume there can be dinner/beverages after. I am open to grabbing a late dinner if anyone else is interested too.
Topics I would like to specifically include in the discussion:
1. Agree that all the distros want hard float. And what that means (just refer to the AAPCS stuff we all already know). Basically a statement "we the assembled Linux community will be supporting a common definition of hardfloat in our distributions", etc. I have people asking me on and off about hardfloat thinking every distro is doing its own thing...which actually is far worse than reality. So, let's fix this with a generic fluffy media-friendly statement.
2. Cross standardization. Not just LSB but how are we going to keep these discussions going? There is the hardfloat IRC channel, etc. but I think this is bigger than HF. I want an ongoing cross-distro discussion around ARM standards. That can be cross-distro, but it *must* actually have some agreed framework, with regular syncups. I would go as far as to say we need a regular phone call (can be once a month) just to force us all to keep this collective ball rolling.
Thanks!
Jon.
P.S. Please forward this information to anyone else who should dial in. I am not yet certain this will actually work given that this isn't a regular LF event so the folks I would usually ask for assistance hooking this up (an actual, non-cell phone with some kind of speakerphone that will work, etc.) but I'm pinging folks now.
Jon Masters jcm@redhat.com wrote:
Folks,
A couple of things from me. Split into two sections:
Dialin
IRC: #linaro-armhf (irc.freenode.net) Time: 8pm Pacific tonight.
I have had a special line setup on the Red Hat Conference system. To dial into this, use one of the following country-specific codes with the access code of 6177591337 (which is my US cellphone number btw).
Global Network Access Toll-Free Dial-in Numbers: Australia : 1800337169 Brazil : 08008921002 Finland : 0800117116 France : 0805632867 Germany : 08006647541 United Kingdom: 08006948057 United States: 18004518679
Agenda
(Steve already sent out a comprehensive agenda)
To Steve's other point around topics for tonight, I agree that the only things (being brutally honest also here) I really care about is hardfloat and standardization. I think we should collectively consider at the start of the meeting whether it makes sense (IMO it does) to confine our discussion to topics we can make progress on in the limited time that we have. I also suggest seeing if we can find another time to followup tomorrow that we can all agree on. For those of us here in person, I assume there can be dinner/beverages after. I am open to grabbing a late dinner if anyone else is interested too.
Topics I would like to specifically include in the discussion:
- Agree that all the distros want hard float. And what that means
(just refer to the AAPCS stuff we all already know). Basically a statement "we the assembled Linux community will be supporting a common definition of hardfloat in our distributions", etc. I have people asking me on and off about hardfloat thinking every distro is doing its own thing...which actually is far worse than reality. So, let's fix this with a generic fluffy media-friendly statement.
- Cross standardization. Not just LSB but how are we going to keep
these discussions going? There is the hardfloat IRC channel, etc. but I think this is bigger than HF. I want an ongoing cross-distro discussion around ARM standards. That can be cross-distro, but it *must* actually have some agreed framework, with regular syncups. I would go as far as to say we need a regular phone call (can be once a month) just to force us all to keep this collective ball rolling.
Thanks!
Jon.
P.S. Please forward this information to anyone else who should dial in. I am not yet certain this will actually work given that this isn't a regular LF event so the folks I would usually ask for assistance hooking this up (an actual, non-cell phone with some kind of speakerphone that will work, etc.) but I'm pinging folks now.
cross-distro mailing list cross-distro@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-distro
We have a room with a conference phone system! Green Valley Board conf. room at 8. Can go until 10 I think if we want. Anyone interested in local dinner beforehand? If so email me and I will send a summary.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jon Masters jcm@redhat.com wrote:
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IRC: #linaro-armhf (irc.freenode.net) Time: 8pm Pacific tonight.
I have had a special line setup on the Red Hat Conference system.
[snip phone details]
Thanks for setting this up Jon, very generous. I can't call in but hope to lurk in the IRC channel.
(Steve already sent out a comprehensive agenda)
To Steve's other point around topics for tonight, I agree that the only things (being brutally honest also here) I really care about is hardfloat and standardization.
These topics are interesting to me too. Is there going to be some minutes or notes from the session? I'd like to read them.
Topics I would like to specifically include in the discussion:
- Agree that all the distros want hard float. And what that means (just
refer to the AAPCS stuff we all already know). Basically a statement "we the assembled Linux community will be supporting a common definition of hardfloat in our distributions", etc. I have people asking me on and off about hardfloat thinking every distro is doing its own thing...which actually is far worse than reality. So, let's fix this with a generic fluffy media-friendly statement.
- Cross standardization. Not just LSB but how are we going to keep
these discussions going? There is the hardfloat IRC channel, etc. but I think this is bigger than HF. I want an ongoing cross-distro discussion around ARM standards. That can be cross-distro, but it *must* actually have some agreed framework, with regular syncups. I would go as far as to say we need a regular phone call (can be once a month) just to force us all to keep this collective ball rolling.
What is wrong with this email list? I think it is a pretty good cross-distro forum. A regular phone call might be good but needs coordination across time zones which is painful. Plus calls sometimes seem less productive than mailing lists and IRC to me. A lot of people on this list are on #meego-arm, #debian-arm, and #ubuntu-arm. Is there a similar Fedora/Red Hat channel? (Too lazy to check.) Should there be a #cross-distro-arm channel?
Regards,
Jeremiah
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