Hi,
Currently we are reassessing whether or not the Headless image meets
the requirements for a console-only developer focused image usable for
kernel, boot loader, power management and other types of non-gui
development. Just for information the current stats as of 2011-01-21
are:
* Download Size: 64M
* Download size with OMAP3 hwpack: 100M
* Package count: 260
The list of package currently on the image can be found at:
https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Foundations/Specs/DeveloperImage#Package List
The current thoughts are to increase the package count and download
size by adding a number of developer focused packages. The initial
list of additional packages can be found at:
https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Foundations/Specs/DeveloperImage#Design
Is there anything missing? A more stripped down 'nano' image will be
produced for board bring-up and verification, see my other email
entitled "Call for opinion: Linaro 'Nano' Image" for more information.
Is anyone *really* against this idea and is satisfied with the
Headless image in its current state? Opinions? Thoughts? Criticisms?
Regards,
Jamie.
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Linaro Release Manager
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 04:39:21PM -0000, Pawel Moll wrote:
> > Well, fixing MMCI because ISP1761 is buggy is not the way forward.
> > The answer is to fix the broken ISP1761 driver.
>
> Totally agree. The thing is that you are the only person right now who
> doesn't have any problems.
That's not my problem. A simple search of the linux-usb mailing list
will give you the patch:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=129469114904445&w=2
> The others can quickly benefit from the workaround.
Others _can_ quickly benefit from the ISP1761 fix by applying the above
patch, which not only fixes the MMCI overruns, but also allows USB to
serial devices to work with Versatile Express. The above patch is
the correct solution.
For christ sake, that patch is a fix for a *known* errata issued by the
ISP1761 manufacturer.
> > Well as I see it, it's pointless enlarging the FIFO. ARM Ltd isn't
> > going to give me updated FPGA images for the Integrator/CP, Versatile
> > PB926, Realview EB and Versatile Express.
>
> If we succeed with this, you (and all other users) will get the
> "improved" FPGA image. But for VE only indeed.
That's utterly useless and completely pointless.
Look, stop jumping off a cliff with this and come back to reality. The
ISP1761 is buggy. We have a fix. We have a tested fix. We have a tested
fix out on mailing lists for everyone to use. It fixes more than MMC
overruns and makes the ISP1761 usable.
The only problem is that it's taking *FAR* too long for it to get into
mainline for no apparant reason. That doesn't stop anyone taking the
tested patch in the URL above and gaining proper USB functionality.
The right thing to do is to follow up on my reply on the ISP1761 thread
to find out why it's taking soo long for it to get into Linus' tree.
I repeat, with the proper set of patches in mainline THERE IS NO ISSUE
WITH MMCI. THE HARDWARE DOES NOT NEED "FIXING". Please listen to me.
Hi,
Currently we are reassessing whether or not the Headless image meets
the requirements for a small, fast, useable image for board
verification. Just for information the current stats as of 2011-01-21
are:
* Download Size: 64M
* Download size with OMAP3 hwpack: 100M
* Package count: 260
The list of package currently on the image can be found at:
https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Foundations/Specs/HeadlessImage#Package List
The current thoughts are to cut this image down as much as possible
whilst still retaining the ability to boot to a command prompt. The
new image would be a 'nano' image and would be useful for verifying
that the hardware boots. For a more complete console-only image for
developers a full-featured developer image would be created. See my
other email entitled "Call for opinion: Linaro 'Developer' Image"
for that.
Is anyone *really* against this idea and is satisfied with the
Headless image in its current state? Opinions? Thoughts? Criticisms?
Regards,
Jamie.
--
Linaro Release Manager
Hey Nicolas,
Over the last few days I've been playing with recent kernels on a
BeagleBoard xM. So far I've gotten Linus' v2.6.37 kernel booting, as
well as the android-2.6.37 git tree booting as well. However, when I try
to boot the latest linaro 2.6.37 git tree, I just get:
Starting kernel ...
Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
And nothing else. I've tried enabling early printk, but still nothing.
I'm working on bisecting down what broke since 2.6.37, but if you have
any hints, I'd appreciate it!
thanks
-john
Hello,
This is my first post, I'm a complete noop to Linaro, discovered it
yesterday. Needing to run OpenGL ES applications and media playback, I
was excited to find e.g. this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhglD0mJiLk
(under Linaro, GStreamer playing a video by DSP in fullscreen)
and this one, admittedly not Linaro but Debian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaypv-JhEVI
(Quake3 using hardware OpenGL ES)
During first and promising own experiments, I was surprised to find that
OpenGL acceleration and A/V decoding by hardware don't seem to be part
of the Linaro hardware package. Does anybody have that integrated, or
how would I do about that?
Interestingly, TI has just released those supporting components in a
fresh version:
http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/linuxdvsdk-dm37x.html
But they come with an older kernel. To my understanding, the TI code
would have to be recompiled with the Linaro kernel?
Thanks for answers,
Jörg
Enclosed you'll find a link to the agenda, notes and actions from the
Linaro Developer Platforms Weekly Status meeting held on January 19th
in #linaro-meeting on irc.freenode.net at 15:00 UTC.
https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Foundations/2011-01-19
Regards,
Tom (tgall_foo)
Developer Platforms Team
"We want great men who, when fortune frowns will not be discouraged."
- Colonel Henry Knox
w) tom.gall att linaro.org
w) tom_gall att vnet.ibm.com
h) tom_gall att mac.com
Hey
As a followup to IRC conversations around backports, releases and QA
today, I'd like to hear what others think of our Linaro PPAs. I'll
start with some history and proposals:
We created a fairly ad hoc PPA layout for the 10.11 cycle, with
ppa:linaro-maintainers/tools
ppa:linaro-maintainers/override
ppa:linaro-maintainers/kernel
and nowadays we also have this PPA for toolchain backports:
ppa:linaro-maintainers/toolchain
and misc other PPAs which I don't really know much about:
ppa:linaro-maintainers/user-platforms
ppa:linaro-toolchain-dev/ppa
ppa:linaro-infrastructure/launch-control
ppa:linaro-infrastructure/launch-control-snapshots
(and probably many more)
There are multiple problems with our current approach:
* ~linaro-maintainers membership is poorly defined
* it's not clear which software should go in which PPA
* it's not clear when we can update which PPAs, e.g. can we update them
after 6-monthly releases? how do we QA/validate updates?
In general, it's good to avoid PPA proliferation, both for sanity and
for the confort of our end users, but I think a consistent set of PPAs
is more important than trying to optimize the number of PPAs to the
smallest subset possible.
Some ideas on addressing this:
* have software ownership split by team; ~toolchain owns gcc-linaro and
qemu-linaro, ~infrastructure owns
* have each team decide between either:
- a single PPA for all their outputs (e.g. ~infrastructure/ppa for
linaro-image-tools and gcc-log-analyzer)
- or multiple PPAs, one per software (e.g. ~toolchain/gcc-linaro PPA
for gcc-linaro, ~toolchain/qemu-linaro PPA for qemu-linaro)
* optionally, additional PPAs for dailies
* optionally, additional PPAs for RC releases
[ this is inspired from the set of PPAs for bzr:
http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/DistroDownloads#Ubuntu%20and%20derivatives
]
In addition, we'd have a single overlay PPA which would be used for
rootfs builds. We could keep the existing one below
~linaro-maintainers.
Open questions:
- list of ~linaro-teams
- do we upload latest release of e.g. gcc-linaro to the natty toolchain
PPA if it already gets uploaded to natty proper?
Thanks,
--
Loïc Minier
Hi,
I am using the linaro-m-headless-rootfs and tools for btrfs are missing.
I want to put btrfs on the onboard MMC and therefore I would like to
run btrfs-tools on target.
Does any one have arm version of the btrfs-tools?
BR
Per
Hey there
As a result of a series of bugs around linaro-image-tools and daily
images, it seemed a sensible approach to solve this class of issues
would be to move more data into hardware packs rather than hardcoding
stuff in linaro-image-tools.
Guilherme, Steve Langasek, and Michael Hudson were all interested in
the idea, so Michael convinced me to start a wiki page with some notes:
https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Specs/11.05/HardwarePacksV2
I'm sending this for others to get the chance to raise issues with
hwpacks since we don't want to change the format too frequently.
Cheers,
--
Loïc Minier