Hi,
On 2012-02-20, at 1:40 PM, Wookey wrote:
+++ Fathi Boudra [2012-02-20 09:34 -0800]:
Hi
On 20 February 2012 08:42, Zach Pfeffer zach.pfeffer@linaro.org wrote:
During ELC a few people asked me if Linaro had something bigger than nano and smaller than Ubuntu that they could use to build stuff. Of course I said Android, but a lot of people actually want a regular Linux platform where they can easily recompile what they need to hack on, add their own libs and scripts and generally work in an "embedded, cross build way."
We provide 6 Ubuntu based images that we can consider as profiles. It's easy to customize or build your own image that will better fit your use case or requirements.
In our case, we use live-build [1] which allow to put your customization on top of our images [2] or even from scratch. Tom has written a wiki page [3]. The page needs some update (I'm willing to help) to add upcoming armhf images and latest live-build with cross support.
We should be clear what is meant by 'cross-support' in this context. This is cross image-creation, not cross-building. If the _cross-building_ part of this is important to punters then we don't yet have a very good answer (not everything in the developer image will crossbuild directly from the archive yet), although we are getting there as multiarch, and sbuild-with-cross-support mature.
But in general most people who think they want to cross-build everything are wrong :-) In fact they really just want to cross-build a few things that they build over and over, and getting most of the system as binaries is just fine. I'm interested to hear of counter-examples (the main one being complier improvements/options which one wants to apply across the board).
Another thing to note is that if the people asking for 'embedded linaro linux' want smaller images we could run our packages through the emdebian-grip tools to get smaller packages/images. (typically 2/3rds size). I'm not sure anyone has got round to trying this, not least because now everyone has SD-card based systems disk space mostly stopped being an issue.
no..
People using 'proper flash' still care.
yes!
thx,
KA
Wookey
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