Hi Gang,
During some roadmapping work today the discussion of capturing and voting on ideas for Linaro came up. The idea was to possibly recreate a Linaro version of this
for everyone to contribute to. I'm looking for +1 and -1 feedback from folks about whether this would be useful (vs interesting).
Joey
At 2012-01-05 07:21:32,"Joey STANFORD" joey@linaro.org wrote: >Hi Gang, > >During some roadmapping work today the discussion of capturing and >voting on ideas for Linaro came up. The idea was to possibly recreate >a Linaro version of this > >http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ > >for everyone to contribute to. I'm looking for +1 and -1 feedback >from folks about whether this would be useful (vs interesting). > >Joey > >_______________________________________________ >linaro-dev mailing list >linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org >http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev Hi,Joey! Idea is so good.Catogetory is good!
B.R TOMMY
We could just use https://www.google.com/moderator/#0.
/Patrik
On 5 January 2012 00:18, Joey STANFORD joey@linaro.org wrote:
Hi Gang,
During some roadmapping work today the discussion of capturing and voting on ideas for Linaro came up. The idea was to possibly recreate a Linaro version of this
for everyone to contribute to. I'm looking for +1 and -1 feedback from folks about whether this would be useful (vs interesting).
Joey
linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev
Hi Patrik,
Yep, since Linaro has a Google Apps account we could indeed use Google Moderator. e.g.
https://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=1c111&t=1c111.40&f=1c111.5df3...
I have large preference to the ideastorm code that brainstorm uses (able to put a branding/theming on it, openid enabled so uses LP, etc).
J
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Patrik Ryd patrik.ryd@linaro.org wrote:
We could just use https://www.google.com/moderator/#0.
/Patrik
On 5 January 2012 00:18, Joey STANFORD joey@linaro.org wrote:
Hi Gang,
During some roadmapping work today the discussion of capturing and voting on ideas for Linaro came up. The idea was to possibly recreate a Linaro version of this
for everyone to contribute to. I'm looking for +1 and -1 feedback from folks about whether this would be useful (vs interesting).
Joey
linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev
On 4 January 2012 18:18, Joey STANFORD joey@linaro.org wrote:
Hi Gang,
During some roadmapping work today the discussion of capturing and voting on ideas for Linaro came up. The idea was to possibly recreate a Linaro version of this
for everyone to contribute to. I'm looking for +1 and -1 feedback from folks about whether this would be useful (vs interesting).
+1
I like brainstorm, though on the Ubuntu side I know it's been a struggle lately to maintain, keep moderators and idea reviewers. It's also my understanding that the code base is not being actively maintained though last month stgraber tracked down who maintains it (code base). Also we would need to insure that ideas are being reviewed by decision makers say at Linaro Connect and we either implement or close the ideas and let the submitter know we have acted on their idea and not let people think the ideas aren't being looked at. This was one of the main complaints on the Ubuntu side that no-one in a decision making role was looking at the ideas.
Cheers, Amber
Joey
I like brainstorm, though on the Ubuntu side I know it's been a struggle lately to maintain, keep moderators and idea reviewers.
I'm hoping that since we're a smaller group that you and Michael can keep up with it (like ask.linaro.org).
It's also my understanding that the code base is not being actively maintained though last month stgraber tracked down who maintains it (code base). Also we would need to insure that ideas are being reviewed by decision makers say at Linaro Connect and we either implement or close the ideas and let the submitter know we have acted on their idea and not let people think the ideas aren't being looked at. This was one of the main complaints on the Ubuntu side that no-one in a decision making role was looking at the ideas.
Good comments. If we go this route (i.e. adding an ideas manager) I'll have you and Michael (and maybe Andy?) evaluate the different tools and see if we can get the technology and process to map up to make a good implementation.
J
Cheers, Amber
Joey
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On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 09:51:01AM -0700, Joey Stanford wrote:
I like brainstorm, though on the Ubuntu side I know it's been a struggle lately to maintain, keep moderators and idea reviewers.
I'm hoping that since we're a smaller group that you and Michael can keep up with it (like ask.linaro.org).
I'm not sure adding one more service like brainstorm will help us enough to offset the added pain of further context-switching an already small team. Is there really that much demand that isn't finding its way to us?
Hi,
I'm not sure adding one more service like brainstorm will help us enough to offset the added pain of further context-switching an already small team. Is there really that much demand that isn't finding its way to us?
We overlapped on emails. That's were I was going with my trailer to Loic's email. I'm not sure the cost vs benefit is there but thought it worthy enough to ask everyone to see if there are benefits/use cases that I don't.
J
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012, Joey STANFORD wrote:
I love the concept and implementation of brainstorm -- +1 -- but will we commit to implementing x things per cycle from brainstorm.linaro.org if we start advertizing it? The worst thing would be to give people a place to suggest work and then ... ignore it.
Howdy,
will we commit to implementing x things per cycle from brainstorm.linaro.org if we start advertizing it? The worst thing would be to give people a place to suggest work and then ... ignore it.
Right on. We'll need to implement some sort of social contract for this. I'd want to get the tech leads to weigh in on it as well if we decide to do it. Looking at Ubuntu there seem to be Chores, Tech debt, new features, bugs, and some edge case stuff there. Each of those would likely have a different priority within the Linaro working groups (but not necessarily within the community developer area).
Your comments are really to my original point: if we roll something like this out I'd want it to be useful to both the full time Linaro Working Groups (and other areas inside Linaro) as well as to the Linaro Community, including community developers. (Hence this discussion on -dev).
J
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For the non-Linaro folks on the list, our Working Groups commit to the Linaro TSC to accomplish a number of items of our roadmap. Consequently like any development shop they don't have a lot of free time. I'm hoping that an ideas system would provide a "wisdom of the masses" affect and do a better job. It would also give us another pool of opportunity items to look at ("Hey, we're in here working on X and if I took another 2 hours I could accomplish this other great thing that many people need and we'd be heroes.") . You could do that with bug reports though and good gardening techniques. What I'm not sold on yet is the cost vs benefit of doing this. I would have to put staff on this to manage it and get the ideas circulated within Linaro.