Status report is here: https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/Middleware/Graphics/WeeklyReport
Last meeting minutes: https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/Middleware/Graphics/Notes/2011-08-17
Summary of the report: - for 1108: https://launchpad.net/linaro-graphics-misc/2011.11/2011.08 https://launchpad.net/unity-gles/2011.11/2011.08 https://launchpad.net/glcompbench/2011.11/2011.08 https://launchpad.net/glmark2/2011.11/2011.08
Also see https://launchpad.net/linaro-mm-sig/+milestone/2011.08 for work done on the memory management area though that is not part of the official Linaro release.
- for 1109: planning of the blueprints is being done now
Finally some food for thought:
How can we get consistent vendor support to get 3d acceleration working for the Linaro officially supported platforms? If we are targeting last version Ubuntu-based evaluation builds and some of the code we work on (and goes upstream) is going through a transition (like unity/nux have moved on to oneiric now) then we may be unable to provide meaningful releases for the components in question. The real issue we have in GWG is 3d acceleration driver support for the next version of ubuntu - we don't have any at the moment (AFAIK) for oneiric
So we cannot guarantee consistent support of features for at least some of the libraries and components we provide unless the driver support is there.
BR,
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:07:07AM +0300, Ilias Biris wrote:
How can we get consistent vendor support to get 3d acceleration working for the Linaro officially supported platforms? If we are targeting last version Ubuntu-based evaluation builds and some of the code we work on (and goes upstream) is going through a transition (like unity/nux have moved on to oneiric now) then we may be unable to provide meaningful releases for the components in question. The real issue we have in GWG is 3d acceleration driver support for the next version of ubuntu - we don't have any at the moment (AFAIK) for oneiric
AIUI this is something which all vendors struggle with, but at least for the OMAP4 we should be in reasonably good shape as TI are committed to providing the necessary binaries for Oneiric. I raised this with Ricardo and he was confident it would be okay, so I'm surprised to still see this in the report.
I also don't quite understand why the updated Unity/Nux packages wouldn't Just Work if installed on Natty -- is the issue that they require updated X11 and Mesa?
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Christian Robottom Reis kiko@linaro.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:07:07AM +0300, Ilias Biris wrote:
How can we get consistent vendor support to get 3d acceleration working for the Linaro officially supported platforms? If we are targeting last version Ubuntu-based evaluation builds and some of the code we work on (and goes upstream) is going through a transition (like unity/nux have moved on to oneiric now) then we may be unable to provide meaningful releases for the components in question. The real issue we have in GWG is 3d acceleration driver support for the next version of ubuntu - we don't have any at the moment (AFAIK) for oneiric
AIUI this is something which all vendors struggle with, but at least for the OMAP4 we should be in reasonably good shape as TI are committed to providing the necessary binaries for Oneiric. I raised this with Ricardo and he was confident it would be okay, so I'm surprised to still see this in the report.
The point is that we _really_ need to have all of our member hardware fully enabled. For all of our evaluation builds. This is a huge pain point for the graphics working group. That's why it is in the report.
Not everyone involved with Unity/Nux/Compiz has a working pandaboard. Not everyone working on other projects has a working pandaboard. For some projects (e.g., cairo-gles), OMAP4 doesn't support all of the functionality involved, so even a working pandaboard is of limited use.
I also don't quite understand why the updated Unity/Nux packages wouldn't Just Work if installed on Natty -- is the issue that they require updated X11 and Mesa?
I believe that some of the plugin-related interfaces are different and mixing and matching isn't possible (Travis?).
cheers, Jesse
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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Jesse Barker jesse.barker@linaro.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Christian Robottom Reis kiko@linaro.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:07:07AM +0300, Ilias Biris wrote:
How can we get consistent vendor support to get 3d acceleration working for the Linaro officially supported platforms? If we are targeting last version Ubuntu-based evaluation builds and some of the code we work on (and goes upstream) is going through a transition (like unity/nux have moved on to oneiric now) then we may be unable to provide meaningful releases for the components in question. The real issue we have in GWG is 3d acceleration driver support for the next version of ubuntu - we don't have any at the moment (AFAIK) for oneiric
AIUI this is something which all vendors struggle with, but at least for the OMAP4 we should be in reasonably good shape as TI are committed to providing the necessary binaries for Oneiric. I raised this with Ricardo and he was confident it would be okay, so I'm surprised to still see this in the report.
The point is that we _really_ need to have all of our member hardware fully enabled. For all of our evaluation builds. This is a huge pain point for the graphics working group. That's why it is in the report.
I believe a lot of people are trying to make this happen, but most of the time they are blocked by the vendor's legal department, that's why Asac even suggested creating a Legal WG at Connect ;-)
Not everyone involved with Unity/Nux/Compiz has a working pandaboard. Not everyone working on other projects has a working pandaboard. For some projects (e.g., cairo-gles), OMAP4 doesn't support all of the functionality involved, so even a working pandaboard is of limited use.
For the first point I believe we should just make sure a Pandaboard is available for everyone, don't know why this is still not the case. For the second point I don't believe we'll have a common solution, even when we get more boards with 3D drivers available, as each vendor can support a specific range of extensions. I believe working with mesa is probably the way to go here.
Cheers,
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Christian Robottom Reis kiko@linaro.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:07:07AM +0300, Ilias Biris wrote:
How can we get consistent vendor support to get 3d acceleration working for the Linaro officially supported platforms? If we are targeting last version Ubuntu-based evaluation builds and some of the code we work on (and goes upstream) is going through a transition (like unity/nux have moved on to oneiric now) then we may be unable to provide meaningful releases for the components in question. The real issue we have in GWG is 3d acceleration driver support for the next version of ubuntu - we don't have any at the moment (AFAIK) for oneiric
AIUI this is something which all vendors struggle with, but at least for the OMAP4 we should be in reasonably good shape as TI are committed to providing the necessary binaries for Oneiric. I raised this with Ricardo and he was confident it would be okay, so I'm surprised to still see this in the report.
We already got SGX working with Oneiric at our Overlay PPA, and should also be able to make that available directly at Ubuntu in the next few days.
So we can already start validating and using Oneiric based images right now, if you're fine with SGX and Pandaboard.
I also don't quite understand why the updated Unity/Nux packages wouldn't Just Work if installed on Natty -- is the issue that they require updated X11 and Mesa?
Nux is not API compatible, requiring Unity to be updated, which also requires a bunch newer libraries, making the backport not so trivial.
Cheers,
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Ilias Biris -
Jesse Barker -
Ricardo Salveti