Hello everyone,
In the spirit of reaching out to the Linaro community, I'd like to engage in some conversation with those working on the HardFP ABI switch and toolchain effort, since we will shortly be doing the same in the Fedora ARM community. The intention is to support hardfp in time for the Fedora 15 ARM release, which *will* lag behind the x86 F-15 release.
Anyway. I could do with some pointers to the current state of things, and who I should talk to and engage with at the LDS in another week. I will be there representing the Fedora ARM community. And I look forward to meeting those of you who don't already know me from other lives ;)
Jon.
+++ Jon Masters [2011-04-30 00:54 -0400]:
Hello everyone,
In the spirit of reaching out to the Linaro community, I'd like to engage in some conversation with those working on the HardFP ABI switch and toolchain effort, since we will shortly be doing the same in the Fedora ARM community. The intention is to support hardfp in time for the Fedora 15 ARM release, which *will* lag behind the x86 F-15 release.
Anyway. I could do with some pointers to the current state of things, and who I should talk to and engage with at the LDS in another week.
Steve McIntyre and Loic Minier are driving the armhf effort in Linaro.
Bootstrapping in Ubuntu is currently underway, and I think Steve has best info.
You can see the state of the Debian effort here: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatTodo Things are 87% built, but (I believe) things are currently being rebuilt t o fit the final paths for multiarch. Which probably implies some extra breakage.
Kontstantinos Margaritis is driving that effort.
See you at UDS.
Wookey
On 30 April 2011 07:54, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
In the spirit of reaching out to the Linaro community, I'd like to engage in some conversation with those working on the HardFP ABI switch and toolchain effort, since we will shortly be doing the same in the Fedora ARM community. The intention is to support hardfp in time for the Fedora 15 ARM release, which *will* lag behind the x86 F-15 release.
Of the pointers, Wookey already mentioned the Debian hardfloat port. The other port to look at for patches etch is the MeeGo hardfloat ARM port. You can track the progress at meego bugzilla[1] as well as meet the people on #meego-arm on freenode.
Riku
[1] https://bugs.meego.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=11429&hide_resolved=0
On 1 May 2011 03:52, Riku Voipio riku.voipio@linaro.org wrote:
On 30 April 2011 07:54, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
In the spirit of reaching out to the Linaro community, I'd like to engage in some conversation with those working on the HardFP ABI switch and toolchain effort, since we will shortly be doing the same in the Fedora ARM community. The intention is to support hardfp in time for the Fedora 15 ARM release, which *will* lag behind the x86 F-15 release.
Of the pointers, Wookey already mentioned the Debian hardfloat port. The other port to look at for patches etch is the MeeGo hardfloat ARM port. You can track the progress at meego bugzilla[1] as well as meet the people on #meego-arm on freenode.
Riku
[1] https://bugs.meego.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=11429&hide_resolved=0
We've got a nascent Android project started at:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-o-hardf...
Is there an Ubuntu session scheduled?
-Zach
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On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 13:27 -0500, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
On 1 May 2011 03:52, Riku Voipio riku.voipio@linaro.org wrote:
On 30 April 2011 07:54, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
In the spirit of reaching out to the Linaro community, I'd like to engage in some conversation with those working on the HardFP ABI switch and toolchain effort, since we will shortly be doing the same in the Fedora ARM community. The intention is to support hardfp in time for the Fedora 15 ARM release, which *will* lag behind the x86 F-15 release.
Of the pointers, Wookey already mentioned the Debian hardfloat port. The other port to look at for patches etch is the MeeGo hardfloat ARM port. You can track the progress at meego bugzilla[1] as well as meet the people on #meego-arm on freenode.
Riku
[1] https://bugs.meego.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=11429&hide_resolved=0
We've got a nascent Android project started at:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-o-hardf...
Is there an Ubuntu session scheduled?
If you mean LDS, there seem to be two sessions (Thu and Fri) related to the hardfp ABI, one on cross-toolchains (which from a Fedora point of view we don't care about), and one about native. I'd certainly be up for further topics around this during the week. We don't want to work in a vaccum...one thing I've tasked our guys with doing is reviewing all the Linaro and MeeGo patches to see what we can help upstream more quickly since Fedora really wants to use as vanilla a toolchain as possible.
Jon.
On 1 May 2011 18:02, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 13:27 -0500, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
On 1 May 2011 03:52, Riku Voipio riku.voipio@linaro.org wrote:
On 30 April 2011 07:54, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
In the spirit of reaching out to the Linaro community, I'd like to engage in some conversation with those working on the HardFP ABI switch and toolchain effort, since we will shortly be doing the same in the Fedora ARM community. The intention is to support hardfp in time for the Fedora 15 ARM release, which *will* lag behind the x86 F-15 release.
Of the pointers, Wookey already mentioned the Debian hardfloat port. The other port to look at for patches etch is the MeeGo hardfloat ARM port. You can track the progress at meego bugzilla[1] as well as meet the people on #meego-arm on freenode.
Riku
[1] https://bugs.meego.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=11429&hide_resolved=0
We've got a nascent Android project started at:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-o-hardf...
Is there an Ubuntu session scheduled?
If you mean LDS, there seem to be two sessions (Thu and Fri) related to the hardfp ABI, one on cross-toolchains (which from a Fedora point of view we don't care about), and one about native. I'd certainly be up for further topics around this during the week. We don't want to work in a vaccum...one thing I've tasked our guys with doing is reviewing all the Linaro and MeeGo patches to see what we can help upstream more quickly since Fedora really wants to use as vanilla a toolchain as possible.
Sounds good, perhaps we can merge https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-o-hardf... with one of the existing topics. Michael, would you like to merge this with one of the hard float sessions?
Hang on. I think that hard float for Android is a different discussion for hard float for 'normal' Linux, including Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora...
Dave
Sent from yet another ARM powered mobile device
On 2 May 2011, at 18:22, Zach Pfeffer zach.pfeffer@linaro.org wrote:
On 1 May 2011 18:02, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 13:27 -0500, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
On 1 May 2011 03:52, Riku Voipio riku.voipio@linaro.org wrote:
On 30 April 2011 07:54, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
In the spirit of reaching out to the Linaro community, I'd like to engage in some conversation with those working on the HardFP ABI switch and toolchain effort, since we will shortly be doing the same in the Fedora ARM community. The intention is to support hardfp in time for the Fedora 15 ARM release, which *will* lag behind the x86 F-15 release.
Of the pointers, Wookey already mentioned the Debian hardfloat port. The other port to look at for patches etch is the MeeGo hardfloat ARM port. You can track the progress at meego bugzilla[1] as well as meet the people on #meego-arm on freenode.
Riku
[1] https://bugs.meego.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=11429&hide_resolved=0
We've got a nascent Android project started at:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-o-hardf...
Is there an Ubuntu session scheduled?
If you mean LDS, there seem to be two sessions (Thu and Fri) related to the hardfp ABI, one on cross-toolchains (which from a Fedora point of view we don't care about), and one about native. I'd certainly be up for further topics around this during the week. We don't want to work in a vaccum...one thing I've tasked our guys with doing is reviewing all the Linaro and MeeGo patches to see what we can help upstream more quickly since Fedora really wants to use as vanilla a toolchain as possible.
Sounds good, perhaps we can merge https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-o-hardf... with one of the existing topics. Michael, would you like to merge this with one of the hard float sessions?
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Perhaps, I know there's been some discussion about Google's concerns about it. Alexander listed the topic, but is traveling at the moment. I created the session from:
https://wiki.linaro.org/Cycles/1111/TechnicalTopics/Platforms
P3.9 Android Hardfloat experiment Medium/High Setup an experimental android hardfloat image based on the Upstream Android Build and benchmark it Android
Jamie, did you have anymore info on this?
-Zach
On 2 May 2011 12:50, David Rusling david.rusling@linaro.org wrote:
Hang on. I think that hard float for Android is a different discussion for hard float for 'normal' Linux, including Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora...
Dave
Sent from yet another ARM powered mobile device
On 2 May 2011, at 18:22, Zach Pfeffer zach.pfeffer@linaro.org wrote:
On 1 May 2011 18:02, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 13:27 -0500, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
On 1 May 2011 03:52, Riku Voipio riku.voipio@linaro.org wrote:
On 30 April 2011 07:54, Jon Masters jonathan@jonmasters.org wrote:
In the spirit of reaching out to the Linaro community, I'd like to engage in some conversation with those working on the HardFP ABI switch and toolchain effort, since we will shortly be doing the same in the Fedora ARM community. The intention is to support hardfp in time for the Fedora 15 ARM release, which *will* lag behind the x86 F-15 release.
Of the pointers, Wookey already mentioned the Debian hardfloat port. The other port to look at for patches etch is the MeeGo hardfloat ARM port. You can track the progress at meego bugzilla[1] as well as meet the people on #meego-arm on freenode.
Riku
[1] https://bugs.meego.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=11429&hide_resolved=0
We've got a nascent Android project started at:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-o-hardf...
Is there an Ubuntu session scheduled?
If you mean LDS, there seem to be two sessions (Thu and Fri) related to the hardfp ABI, one on cross-toolchains (which from a Fedora point of view we don't care about), and one about native. I'd certainly be up for further topics around this during the week. We don't want to work in a vaccum...one thing I've tasked our guys with doing is reviewing all the Linaro and MeeGo patches to see what we can help upstream more quickly since Fedora really wants to use as vanilla a toolchain as possible.
Sounds good, perhaps we can merge https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-o-hardf... with one of the existing topics. Michael, would you like to merge this with one of the hard float sessions?
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