On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Zach Pfeffer zach.pfeffer@linaro.org wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that developers will get these tools from Google during their SDK install. Are we going to wrap that install?
The idea was to make some of the tools available at Ubuntu directly, so that's why it'd be good to know which tools are the most important ones first.
But sure, we need a way to make it work together with the SDK, but personally I don't know much about how they are shipping their own tools (if is deployed at the system path or just at the user's home and then setting PATH and so on with eclipse).
Cheers,
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0300, Ricardo Salveti wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Zach Pfeffer zach.pfeffer@linaro.org wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that developers will get these tools from Google during their SDK install. Are we going to wrap that install?
The idea was to make some of the tools available at Ubuntu directly, so that's why it'd be good to know which tools are the most important ones first.
I definitely want Ubuntu to be a fantastic platform for Android development, and if the best experience is provided by having the tools packaged directly, let's do it.
Another criteria is if it allows for more opportunistic Android hacking -- i.e. I have an Ubuntu system and an Android device and am scared of this big opaque third-party-provided Android SDK; can I install some tools (adb etc) from the Ubuntu archive that let me start hacking right away?
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Christian Robottom Reis kiko@linaro.org wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0300, Ricardo Salveti wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Zach Pfeffer zach.pfeffer@linaro.org wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that developers will get these tools from Google during their SDK install. Are we going to wrap that install?
The idea was to make some of the tools available at Ubuntu directly, so that's why it'd be good to know which tools are the most important ones first.
I definitely want Ubuntu to be a fantastic platform for Android development, and if the best experience is provided by having the tools packaged directly, let's do it.'
With this kind of approach one could be one apt-get away from having an Android developer suite installed on their ubuntu system combined with Linaro's improvements.
OTOH as Zach mentioned, one could keep the expectation that Android devs must complete the install steps as documented at Google, and that further additions from linaro would be a further steps.
As long as install isn't awful, I could see either way being reasonable.
Another criteria is if it allows for more opportunistic Android hacking -- i.e. I have an Ubuntu system and an Android device and am scared of this big opaque third-party-provided Android SDK; can I install some tools (adb etc) from the Ubuntu archive that let me start hacking right away?
I'd sure like to think so.
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On 25 August 2011 14:53, Tom Gall tom.gall@linaro.org wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Christian Robottom Reis kiko@linaro.org wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0300, Ricardo Salveti wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Zach Pfeffer zach.pfeffer@linaro.org wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that developers will get these tools from Google during their SDK install. Are we going to wrap that install?
The idea was to make some of the tools available at Ubuntu directly, so that's why it'd be good to know which tools are the most important ones first.
I definitely want Ubuntu to be a fantastic platform for Android development, and if the best experience is provided by having the tools packaged directly, let's do it.'
With this kind of approach one could be one apt-get away from having an Android developer suite installed on their ubuntu system combined with Linaro's improvements.
OTOH as Zach mentioned, one could keep the expectation that Android devs must complete the install steps as documented at Google, and that further additions from linaro would be a further steps.
As long as install isn't awful, I could see either way being reasonable.
Yeah, I don't think we need to redo Google's SDK install. Of course if we could have apt-get drive Google's install that would be something - plus install Eclipse and the Eclipse plug-in. Of course it would also have to handle auto-updating. The instructions are here:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
The only tools that may be worth shipping are adb and fastboot. Of course I'm not sure if we can distribute them - they may have to come from Google.
Another criteria is if it allows for more opportunistic Android hacking -- i.e. I have an Ubuntu system and an Android device and am scared of this big opaque third-party-provided Android SDK; can I install some tools (adb etc) from the Ubuntu archive that let me start hacking right away?
I'd sure like to think so.
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W dniu 25.08.2011 21:20, Christian Robottom Reis pisze:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0300, Ricardo Salveti wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Zach Pfeffer zach.pfeffer@linaro.org wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that developers will get these tools from Google during their SDK install. Are we going to wrap that install?
The idea was to make some of the tools available at Ubuntu directly, so that's why it'd be good to know which tools are the most important ones first.
Another criteria is if it allows for more opportunistic Android hacking -- i.e. I have an Ubuntu system and an Android device and am scared of this big opaque third-party-provided Android SDK; can I install some tools (adb etc) from the Ubuntu archive that let me start hacking right away?
That was my initial idea when I made android-tools package (which was not announced anywhere). As owner of few Android devices I want to have utilities like:
- adb, - fastboot (to download images to my phone), - nvflash (ask #ac100 and/or Ubuntu/ARM guys do they have it) would be nice to download images to my Tegra2 tablet - mkbootimg (and related) so I can prepare kernel image to flash device (abootimg iirc does that)
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